29 APRIL 2020 COMPLETE HANSARD

PARLIAMENT OF THE KINGDOM OF LESOTHO

SENATE CHAMBER

Wednesday, 29th April, 2020

The House assembled at 10:30 a.m.

MR. VICE-PRESIDENT (in the Chair)

PRAYER

The Chaplain led the House in Prayer.

                  ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE CHAIR

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Kea le lumelisa Litho tse Khabane, kajeno, ‘me Litsebiso ke tse latelang:.

  1. Joale ka ha le hlokomela hore ho Order Paper mono  re ntse re lebelletse Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Lekala la Bophelo ka Regulations tsa Covid-19 empa joale ha re bone a fihla.
  • Tsebiso e ‘ngoe ke hore ka lebaka la mosebetsi o mongata oa ‘Muso (Government Business) o matsohong a Legislation Committee, Phutheho e neng e lokela ho ba hosane, Labone la la 30 ‘Mesa, 2020, ea … e chechiselitsoe bekeng e tlang, Labobeli la la 05 Mots’eanong, 2020, e le ho fa Legislation Committee sebaka sa ho kopana le Lekala la Lichelete ka Melaoana e latelang:
  • Financial Institutions Payment of Expenses for Examinations Regulations, 2019.
  • Money Laundering and Proceeds of Crime Amendment Regulations, 2019.

Litsebiso kaofela li fella mona ‘me joale ka ha ke boletse pele re ne re lebelletse, Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane ka ‘nete ho bonahala ka mantsoe a nepahetseng ke hore, Morena broke our heart joale ka hona re fihla pheletsong ea mosebetsi oa rona oa letsatsi lena.

Order! Order! Ha u batla ho bua u penye mono empa ka ‘nete ke taba tse joang motho ha a sa……ke taba tse utloahalang ‘me e etsa ts’ebetso e bosula ha ho hlophuoe hore tsatsing leo a bile a boletse hore o tla ba teng teng joale ba se ba sa be teng ka ‘nete ke litaba tse khathatsang matla.

HON. SENATOR R. MOPELI: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi oa ka, u tl’o ntumelle ke u lumelise, ke lumelise Tafole le Litho tse Khabane.

Mohlomphehi ehlile re na le ngongoreho e kholo e sa le ho tloha selemo se fetileng mona tlatsa libuka tsa  mileage le ha joale libuka tseno ha li e-so fihle matsohong a rona le litsiane tseo re li lebelletseng li ntse li e-so fihle, Mohlomphehi. Ebe, Mohlomphehi,  haeba u hlokometse, ke kapele hakae libuka tseo tsa rona li tlang ho khutla ‘me litsiane tseo re li lebelletseng li tle ho rona?

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: E re ke utloisise. Le ile la tlatsa libuka, la fana ka tsona joale ha le qeta ho etsa joalo  ha li e-so ka le li boela matsohong a lona ho tloha selemong se fiteleng?

HON. SENATOR R. MOPELI: Ho joalo, Mohlomphehi.

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Mohlomong Tafole e tla ntlhalosetsa. E re ke utloisise hobane le ka ‘na la li tlatsa hape li ntse li le Tafoleng moo… (laughter).  Se ke la ferekanyang Morena oa ka hobane Morena oa ka o re le ile la boela la li tlatsa hape, le ile la li busetsa?… (laughter) Ha ke sa li kena litaba tsa hae. (Kekeke… /laughter)

HON. SENATOR S.B. SEEISO: Ke ne ke kopa ho hlakisa hore na Morena oa ka oa Butha-Buthe  o reng haeba u ntumella, Ntate, O re na ebe (kapa kea lula joale banna, we will discuss them… (Laughter).

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Morena Seeiso o bua ntho e kholo.

HON. SENATOR S.B. SEEISO: Ntate, ke ne ke mpa ke ipotsetsa feela hore na ho latela, ke ts’alo-morao kapa ho kopa lift koloing ena ea haeso ea Butha-Buthe.  Ho latela qeto e entsoeng ke  Constitutional Court reserving the obligation and the legal obligations on payroll.

Mantsoe a itseng ho nkuoa Paramente e ne e ntse e sebetsa matsatsi ao re neng re fihlile hae ha a ne a le ka thoko ho Molao, ho tla etsahalang ka eona chelete eo?

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Ae, eno Morena, e bonolo, akere u bua ka sitting allowance? Ke ne ke re le the title says it all – sitting allowance.

HON. SENATOR S.B. SEEISO: Ntate Motlatsi oa President, ke kopa u se ke oa batla ho matha ka lihlooho tsa rona. Ke re Molao kapa qeto ea Lekhotla e hlakile, ho nkuoe kapa ho nkoa Matlo ana a Mabeli a ne a ntse a sebetsa, ka mantsoe a mang the implication ke hore re ne ntse re lutse.

The implication is that re ne ne ntse re lutse ha se rona ba ileng ba ikoalla feela har’a nako.

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Joale na ho na le mohla u tla re thusa ka eona na?

HON. SENATOR S.B. SEEISO: Ae, dig your joy.

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Ae ke ne ke re Ntate ho na le motho eo ke tla isa taba ena ho eena, se ka mphella pelo. (laughter)!!!

HON. SENATOR M.M. MOSHOESHOE: Mohlomphehi oa ka, ‘na  ke ne ke sa bue ka sitting allowance joale ke re haeba eane ke (a) ke kenya (b) mileage ha re koala re ea hae. Ha Paramente e phomotsoa re ea hae, re ile ra phomotsoa ka sekhahla sa prorogation, ra khutla ka sekhahla.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Ka Molimo e ke ke eaba (e) of that (a), never! E etsa contradict that one hantle (laughter).

Order! Ke ne ke re ‘M’e Makholu kea utloa hore le uena u hlahisa taba ea hore ho ile hoa koaloa, ‘M’e ka nepo ho joalo ‘me hoa boela hoa buloa kamorao ho kahlolo ea Lekhotla. E le hore e ne e le ka phoso hore ebe ho ile hoa eba joalo Morena oa ka.

Ae ka ‘nete ke ne ke re ‘na ha ke na ho tseba ho toloka kahlolo ea Lekhotla (laughter) joale ke ne ke re ho na le motho ea tlang ho nthusa ho etsa lintho tseno. Joale ke ne ke re ntho e mpang e etsa ….ke litaba tsena tse peli tse buueng ke Morena oa Matsieng le ‘M’e Mofumahali Makholu hore ho na le mileage ka nq’a ena ho na le sitting allowance. Kea kholoa ke lona feela …joale e kholo ke sitting allowance.

Mofumahali Nthati, fa ‘M’e Mabela mike.

HON. SENATOR M.S. MAAMA: Mohlomphehi oa ka, mangoele a boqheku joale a hana.

HON. VICE-PRESIDENT: Ipuele feela, ‘M’e.

HON. SENATOR M.S MAAMA: Ke ne ke re… (laughter), Mohlomphehi, ke ne ke re ooe, e re ‘M’e a bone hore o thusa ntho moo ka manyane-nyane – lawyer (laughter) ea loeang. (laughter) ‘M’e Lawyer. U oa utloa, Mohlomphehi.

VICE-PRESIDENT: Ha ke tsoa mona ke il’o kopana le eena ‘M’e Lawyer ka taba tsena.

HON. SENATOR M.S. MAAMA: E-e. che kea kholoa hoba u nqetetse khale, lumela.

VICE-PRESIDENT: Lumela, ‘M’e Mofumahali.

Honourable Members, taba ena e re fihlisa pheletsong ea mosebetsi oa rona oa letsatsi lena.

The House is Adjourned ho fihlela hosane ha hora ea leshome e fetile ka metsotso e mashome a mararo.     

ADJOURNMENT Thereupon Mr. Vice-President adjourned the House without Question put pursuant to the standing Order. The House was accordingly adjourned at 10:52 a.m.